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    Bordeaux 2002 Barrel Tasting

    Although most of the excitement surrounding
    Bordeaux these days has focused on the
    release of the stunning 2000s, senior editor
    James Suckling will be in France's premier
    wine region for nine days to taste hundreds
    of wines from its latest harvest: 2002. He
    will be focusing on the top wines from the
    best estates.

    Preliminary reports on the quality of the vintage have been mixed. The summer
    of 2002 was one of the coolest and grayest ever, yet the word is that many
    châteaus made extremely rich, concentrated reds due to small crops and dry
    weather. Producers who did not keep yields low may have made diluted reds.
    But top estates reported early on that their young reds, particularly Cabernet
    Sauvignon, are very high in alcohol and packed with tannins.

    Suckling's extensive tastings, from March 25 to April 2, will tell us much more
    about the quality of the vintage.

    The big questions are, who is going to buy the wines, and how will they be
    priced? The U.S. economy is still struggling, war with Iraq is imminent and
    anti-French sentiment appears to be growing in some quarters, with some
    consumers threatening to boycott French wines and foods because the French
    government isn't supporting U.S. policies. Only time will tell what the market
    demand is for Bordeaux's newest wines, and the majority of prices for 2002
    Bordeaux won't be released until later this spring.

    To help you make your buying decisions, Wine Spectator Online will provide
    you the results of Suckling's blind tastings of barrel samples and of his visits to
    dozens of châteaus. In addition, he will interview wine producers and wine
    merchants from around the world to get a sense of the demand and expected
    pricing. All the information will be distilled into a concise analysis and succinct
    tasting notes that will be published here over several days, starting on April 2.
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    claudius a répondu au sujet : Re: dégustations primeurs 2002

    Sukling s'est donc racommodé avec W.S....il termine aujourd'hui (2.04.03)ses dégustations à  Bordeaux
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    Château Cos-d'Estournel St.-Estèphe 2002 95-100
    Exceptional. Intense aromas of crushed berries, with wet earth and licorice. Full-bodied, with super fine tannins and a medium finish. This is impressive, firm and powerful. The team of Cos worked hard on this, and it shows. -- J.S.

    Château Haut-Brion Pessac-Léognan 2002 95-100
    Wow. Super aromas, with blackberries, minerals, currants and licorice. Full-bodied, with an amazing core of fruit and fine tannins. Very long. Exceptional wine. -- J.S.

    Château Lafite Rothschild Pauillac 2002 95-100
    Crushed berries and intensity to this, with grapey, toasted oak and cedar notes. Big and concentrated, with chewy and firm tannins. Very long. Very tight, though, and just beginning to show its true nature. -- J.S.

    Château Léoville Las Cases St.-Julien 2002 95-100
    Subtle aromas of blackberries, currants and minerals, with hints of violets. Full-bodied, with a massive core of fruit and firm and rich tannins. Very muscular. Las Cases does it again. -- J.S.

    Château Mouton-Rothschild Pauillac 2002 95-100
    Black color, with intense aromas of lead pencil, currants and eucalyptus. Full-bodied, with chewy yet refined tannins and a long finish. Very impressive. Could be one of the best Moutons since 195-100. -- J.S.

    Château Le Pin Pomerol 2002 95-100
    Loads of potential here. This is incredibly fresh and fruity, with fine tannins and a lovely berry, tobacco character. It reminds me of a top vintage of Burgundy's La Tâche with its luxuriously silky texture and bright and succulent fruit. Hard not to drink the barrel sample. -- J.S.

    Potentially Outstanding Wines

    L'Absolut de Quinault St.-Emilion 2002 92-94
    Supergood. Full-bodied, with lots of velvety tannins and a long and pretty finish. Impressive fruit and finesse. This is a new tiny-production, handmade wine that was fermented in 225-liter barrels. From Château Quinault. -- J.S.

    Château Ausone St.-Emilion 2002 92-94
    Very inky, with lots of berry, raspberry and licorice character. Full-bodied, with fine tannins and a long finish. A solid wine with great texture. Ausone does no wrong. Almost 95-100. -- J.S.

    Château Calon-Ségur St.-Estèphe 2002 92-94
    Fabulous aromas of crushed berries, with cassis and blueberries and hints of spice. Full-bodied and very rich, with a wonderful tannin structure. Long and exotic. -- J.S.

    Château Cheval-Blanc St.-Emilion 2002 92-94
    This shows a solid core of fruit, with berry, cherry and currants. Full-bodied, with fine tannins and a long finish. Solid wine. Very well done. -- J.S.

    Le Dôme St.-Emilion 2002 92-94
    Wonderful mineral, blackberry and chocolate aromas follow through to a full-bodied palate, with big, silky tannins. Very long and powerful. This is a new small-production wine, about 900 cases made, from the hillsides of St.-Emilion near Château Angelus. Lots of potential. -- J.S.

    Château L'à‰glise Clinet Pomerol 2002 92-94
    Very clean and refined, with mineral, raspberry and berry character. Medium-bodied, with fine tannins and a long, flavorful finish. Denis Durantou is one of the most talented winemakers in Bordeaux, which he proves with his 2002. Almost 95-100. -- J.S.

    Château Latour Pauillac 2002 92-94
    Extremely aromatic, with crushed berry, currants and lead pencil. Full-bodied, with good tannins and a long-lasting finish. Racy and austere, but very good. Almost 95-100. -- J.S.

    Château Lynch-Bages Pauillac 2002 92-94
    Fantastic aromas of ripe currants, spices, cedar and incense. Full-bodied, with soft and velvety tannins and a long, currant and mineral finish. Serious for the vintage. Better than 2001. -- J.S.

    Château Margaux Margaux 2002 92-94
    Lovely mineral, berry, cherry and currant aromas. Very perfumed. Full-bodied, with very fine tannins and a seductive finish. Very refined indeed. Almost 95-100. -- J.S.

    Château La Mission-Haut-Brion Pessac-Léognan 2002 92-94
    Lots of blackberries, tobacco and minerals. Fragrant wine. Full-bodied, with very fine tannins and berry and mineral character. Long finish. Almost 95-100. Château La Mission-Haut-Brion pulls out the stops in a less than perfect year. -- J.S.

    Château Palmer Margaux 2002 92-94
    Full-bodied, with big, yet silky tannins. Very long and fresh. Super nose of Petit Verdot, with blackberries and pepper. It's only 8 percent PV, but it was perfectly ripe this year. Almost 95-100. -- J.S.

    Château Pavie St.-Emilion 2002 92-94
    Superclean and focused, with lovely fruit and a medium body. Firm tannins and a racy finish. Great effort was made here, and the wine is harmonious and well-made. Just at 92 for me. -- J.S.

    Château Pichon-Longueville-Baron Pauillac 2002 92-94
    Good mineral, berry and tobacco character, with a hint of cedar. Full-bodied, with a solid core of fruit, velvety tannins and a long finish. Very well done. Clearly better than the 2001. One of the best from Pauillac this year. -- J.S.

    Château Pichon-Longueville-Lalande Pauillac 2002 92-94
    The nose on this is gorgeous. I like just smelling it. Cassis, with minerals and hints of ripe blackberries. Full-bodied, with plenty of fine tannins and a long, fresh finish. Very beautiful indeed. Very elegant. Showing a lot of the Cabernet Franc character. -- J.S.

    Château Pontet-Canet Pauillac 2002 92-94
    Super aromas of currants, berries and minerals, with hints of flowers. Full-bodied, with a lovely core of fine tannins and a medium to long finish. Very fine indeed. Alfred Tesseron is making excellent wine close to every year now. -- J.S.

    Château de Valandraud St.-Emilion 2002 92-94
    This has a solid core of fruit, with a very tannic structure. Blockbuster. Full-bodied, and chewy. A bit austere, but very impressive. Right at 92 for me. Wait and see if it is really great, but I am impressed. Jean-Luc Thunevin put a lot of sweat into his wine. -- J.S.
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    "Full-bodied, with super fine tannins and a medium finish." - 95/100

    Je trouve juste un peu curieux qu'un vin (Cos d'Estournel) obtienne une telle note avec un "medium finish"...!

    Enfin... Il s'est juste peut-être mal exprimé. (Ce ne serait pas la première fois!)

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    Je ne savais pas que 2002 était une répétition de 2000 ???!
    Et si c'est vrai alors tant mieux puisque les prix sont à  la baisse, enfin je crois ....

    Amitiés,
    M@nuel.
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    Sous le couvert d'une notation sur 100, tous ces braves gens ne nous feraient-ils pas une petite notation relative à  la Bettane?
    Pour ceux qui trouvent que ma remarque semble exagérée, on peut pencher pour une notation hybride ( entre la notation absolue et la notation relative).
    Somme toute une notation, hybride ou pas, très opportune juqu'à  la fin de la vente en primeur.

    Comme à  chaque millésime délicat, rappelons le dicton de PPDA : La vigilance doit inciter à  la prudence.

    Jmm
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    jmm,

    Pourrais-tu STP donner quelques explications sur ce que tu appelles une notation hybride?
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    Ne pas négliger le Sauternais en 2002, semble t'il...

    Sauternes 2002 - premiers comptes-rendus
    www.decanter.com/rec...
    Un de leurs dégustateurs, David Peppercorn est très positif sur les Sauternes du millésime 2002, qu'il juge à  peine en dessous du niveau des 2001.
    Ses favoris:
    Sigalas-Rabaud, Rieussec, Guiraud et Suduiraut.

    Son commentaire original:
    "The dramatic change in the weather on 9 September enabled producers to pick some wonderfully concentrated and botrytised grapes from around 19 September until end October, says David Peppercorn MW. The quality, even at this early stage, at the Union des Grands Crus tasting held at Coutet this year, was remarkably even, with many wines of very high quality. They are characterised by their beautiful rich, fruity textures and length on the palate and their great elegance. While giving the impression of being less outstanding than 2001 overall, this is clearly a very fine vintage indeed. "

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    Anthony a répondu au sujet : Re: notes de dégustations: primeurs 2002

    Honnetement, quand vous lisez un commentaire qui dit "92-94, mais presque 95-100", n'avez-vous pas l'impression que l'on se fout carrement de votre poire ???
    Quand on sait qu' 1 point peut faire la renomme ou entrainer le declin d'un domaine, une fourchette de "presque" 8 points - meme sur un 1er commentaire, en primeur et de la barrique - non seulement ne veut rien dire, mais en plus est dangereusement tendancieux.

    JS ferait mieux de dire qu'il a aime "un peu", "beaucoup", "passionnement", "a la folie" ou "pas du tout", on s'y retrouverait mieux !!

    Ceci dit, sur les 1e impressions de ces commentaires (plus que les notes !) et d'autres lus ci et la sur le web, je suis d'accord sur 2 points:

    - 2002 ne sera pas un marche primeur, et je pense que l'on va voir plusieurs domaines qui simplement ne vont pas en offrir

    - Si les prix baissent a des niveaux acceptables, le rapport Q/P de certains domaines sera interessant. Je pense perso que d'ci a 5-6 ans, j'aurais un petit nombre de 2002 en cave .....

    Salutations,
    Anthony

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    Notation hybride : Une tendance inconsciente à  surnoter les vins en procédant uniquement par comparaison entre eux, c'est à  dire entre ceux d'un même millésime.
    Une meilleure explication:
    Est-ce que, si tout à  coup, entre le Cos 2002 et le Mouton 2002, on plaçait un Mouton 2000 au milieu de cette dégustation 2002, le Mouton 2002 serait-il toujours au alentour de 97,5?

    Jmm
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    claudius a répondu au sujet : Re: notes de dégustations: primeurs 2002

    toutes les notes de dégustation de James Suckling à  l'adresse ci-dessous

    le pauvre! plus de 240 vins dégustés en qqs jours, je ne l'envie pas.

    www.winespectator.co...
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